Dare to Disagree - meet the professional campaigner whose job is to change your mind

Meet Shaughan Dolan, the campaigns director of a movement to nurture a new generation of purpose-led businesses with almost a decade's experience of changing minds for charitable causes and political parties. In this fascinating deep-dive into what it takes to win over people who disagree with you, hosts, Io and Tony, talk to Shaughan about his love affair with competitive debating and how it has shaped the way he approaches trying to change someone else's mind.